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		<title>By: LeSombre</title>
		<link>http://lesombre.ca/2009/12/01/wings-of-a-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-5244</link>
		<dc:creator>LeSombre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Sybil Law: &lt;/strong&gt;Thanks! I&#039;ll most likely need it. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Sybil Law: </strong>Thanks! I&#8217;ll most likely need it. <img src='http://lesombre.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sybil Law</title>
		<link>http://lesombre.ca/2009/12/01/wings-of-a-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-5243</link>
		<dc:creator>Sybil Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad part is, they&#039;re gonna get hurt no matter what. It sucks, but it&#039;s true.
My daughter (almost 8 - in a few days!) watches the news with me and it&#039;s given us chances to have discussions like that. She happened to catch the news when they were talking about the 16 year old who killed the 9 year old girl, and it really bothered her. However, it turned out to be a great conversation about THAT was why I was so strict with her and wouldn&#039;t let her just run around the street like some of her friends, etc. And at the end of our talk (where I also said, &quot;There are just crazy people out there, and mean people and my job is to protect you but you also have to think smart and listen to your gut and protect yourself, too), she gave me a hug and said she was glad I didn&#039;t let her just do what she wanted all the time.
I am pretty sure she&#039;ll regret saying that in a few years, but hey - got the message across!
Good luck!
.-= Sybil Law&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://sybillaw-sybilcrankypants.blogspot.com/2009/11/theiving-can-be-fun.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Theiving Can Be Fun!&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad part is, they&#8217;re gonna get hurt no matter what. It sucks, but it&#8217;s true.<br />
My daughter (almost 8 &#8211; in a few days!) watches the news with me and it&#8217;s given us chances to have discussions like that. She happened to catch the news when they were talking about the 16 year old who killed the 9 year old girl, and it really bothered her. However, it turned out to be a great conversation about THAT was why I was so strict with her and wouldn&#8217;t let her just run around the street like some of her friends, etc. And at the end of our talk (where I also said, &#8220;There are just crazy people out there, and mean people and my job is to protect you but you also have to think smart and listen to your gut and protect yourself, too), she gave me a hug and said she was glad I didn&#8217;t let her just do what she wanted all the time.<br />
I am pretty sure she&#8217;ll regret saying that in a few years, but hey &#8211; got the message across!<br />
Good luck!<br />
.-= <a href="http://sybillaw-sybilcrankypants.blogspot.com/" class="ubernym uttJustLink" onmouseover="domTT_activate(this, event, 'content', 'She\'s cranky.','caption', 'Wonder Woman' );">Sybil Law</a>&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://sybillaw-sybilcrankypants.blogspot.com/2009/11/theiving-can-be-fun.html" rel="nofollow">Theiving Can Be Fun!</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: LeSombre</title>
		<link>http://lesombre.ca/2009/12/01/wings-of-a-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-5237</link>
		<dc:creator>LeSombre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Hello Haha Narf: &lt;/strong&gt;You don&#039;t have kids? I hear you practice all the time!  :mrgreen:  And thanks for the advice. 

&lt;strong&gt;Becky: &lt;/strong&gt;I can only hope.

&lt;strong&gt;SheilaCSR: &lt;/strong&gt;Thanks, I might need luck this time around.

&lt;strong&gt;Janelle: &lt;/strong&gt;I&#039;m curious to see how I will handle it myself. And yes, I did watch the &quot;What would you do&quot; stuff. It wouldn&#039;t surprise me that most of the footage was either arranged or they had to go through a lot of people to get the reactions they wanted.  :mrgreen: 

&lt;strong&gt;Lisa: &lt;/strong&gt;Yeah, you&#039;re right. Unfortunately, life accelerated the need for that talk.  :sad: 

&lt;strong&gt;CMG: &lt;/strong&gt;It is what it&#039;s all about.

&lt;strong&gt;NYCWD: &lt;/strong&gt;Riiiiiiight.  :razz:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Hello Haha Narf: </strong>You don&#8217;t have kids? I hear you practice all the time!  <img src='http://lesombre.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' />   And thanks for the advice. </p>
<p><strong>Becky: </strong>I can only hope.</p>
<p><strong>SheilaCSR: </strong>Thanks, I might need luck this time around.</p>
<p><strong>Janelle: </strong>I&#8217;m curious to see how I will handle it myself. And yes, I did watch the &#8220;What would you do&#8221; stuff. It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me that most of the footage was either arranged or they had to go through a lot of people to get the reactions they wanted.  <img src='http://lesombre.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p><strong>Lisa: </strong>Yeah, you&#8217;re right. Unfortunately, life accelerated the need for that talk.  <img src='http://lesombre.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':sad:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p><strong>CMG: </strong>It is what it&#8217;s all about.</p>
<p><strong>NYCWD: </strong>Riiiiiiight.  <img src='http://lesombre.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: NYCWD</title>
		<link>http://lesombre.ca/2009/12/01/wings-of-a-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-5229</link>
		<dc:creator>NYCWD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say lie.

Lie like you&#039;ve never lied before.

If you lie enough, you too may believe it... and maybe it&#039;ll come true!

Like that whole Tinkerbell clapping crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say lie.</p>
<p>Lie like you&#8217;ve never lied before.</p>
<p>If you lie enough, you too may believe it&#8230; and maybe it&#8217;ll come true!</p>
<p>Like that whole Tinkerbell clapping crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Coal Miner's Granddaughter</title>
		<link>http://lesombre.ca/2009/12/01/wings-of-a-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-5228</link>
		<dc:creator>Coal Miner's Granddaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say tell her. Prepare her. It&#039;s better to walk into a situation fully armed than it is to be unprepared. I mean, don&#039;t tell her that people are out to get her, but let her know that there are people with little or no scruples, who will hurt her emotionally or physically, but that we all go through that, we learn from it, and that she can come to you and LovelyWife at any time in her life for help and love.

That&#039;s what it&#039;s all about.
.-= Coal Miner&#039;s Granddaughter&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/coalminersgd/~3/O580i3gEQ1g/worst-sunday-ever.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Worst Sunday. Ever.&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say tell her. Prepare her. It&#8217;s better to walk into a situation fully armed than it is to be unprepared. I mean, don&#8217;t tell her that people are out to get her, but let her know that there are people with little or no scruples, who will hurt her emotionally or physically, but that we all go through that, we learn from it, and that she can come to you and <a href="http://martianblueberrytea.blogspot.com/" class="ubernym uttJustLink" onmouseover="domTT_activate(this, event, 'content', 'She\'s awesome. She\'s with me. Move along. ','caption', 'My Lovely Wife Susie' );">LovelyWife</a> at any time in her life for help and love.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what it&#8217;s all about.<br />
.-= Coal Miner&#8217;s Granddaughter&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/coalminersgd/~3/O580i3gEQ1g/worst-sunday-ever.html" rel="nofollow">The Worst Sunday. Ever.</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://lesombre.ca/2009/12/01/wings-of-a-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-5227</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there has to be some kind of happy medium between scaring them and preparing them, and I think it&#039;s situational. Things inevitably happen that create the opening for discussion about how people are not always nice, and can at times really, really suck. I don&#039;t think having a sit-down out of the blue is something I would do because then it&#039;s an abstract concept, but I do think that it needs to be addressed. Even if it makes you feel like a huge balloon popper.
.-= Lisa&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floatingprincess.com/archives/788&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Survey Says&#8230;&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there has to be some kind of happy medium between scaring them and preparing them, and I think it&#8217;s situational. Things inevitably happen that create the opening for discussion about how people are not always nice, and can at times really, really suck. I don&#8217;t think having a sit-down out of the blue is something I would do because then it&#8217;s an abstract concept, but I do think that it needs to be addressed. Even if it makes you feel like a huge balloon popper.<br />
.-= <a href="http://clusterfook.com/" class="ubernym uttJustLink" onmouseover="domTT_activate(this, event, 'content', 'Three-time Cancer Fighter, Mother of Tweens, Rolling Stones Fanatic.','caption', 'It was what it was.' );">Lisa</a>&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.floatingprincess.com/archives/788" rel="nofollow">Survey Says&#8230;</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Janelle</title>
		<link>http://lesombre.ca/2009/12/01/wings-of-a-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-5226</link>
		<dc:creator>Janelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome question! 

I&#039;m curious how you are gonna handle it, because you are so right! I don&#039;t believe in all that fluffy foo foo crap deep down in my heart. I put on the appearance that I do, but really- I don&#039;t. I *DO* believe that most people could care less about you at the end of the day and if they have to step on you to make themselves look good, they will.  Most, not all, but again- most.  

Have you ever watched (I think it&#039;s on 20/20) &quot;What would you do?&quot; Most people don&#039;t do crap to help out if someone is in trouble and getting hurt - UNLESS someone is already stepping in to help out.  I saw this one where this guy pretended to be dead on the street, or at least sleeping, unconscious or something and the number of people that just walked by, stepped over him was unbelievable.  Just proves the point that people suck and you really are on your own once you reach adulthood.  

I do try to live in a world where I believe that most people are good and just when I get all comfy in that place, BAM! someone takes a dump all over me in one way or another and I&#039;m back to square one with my faith in humanity.  It&#039;s just easier to not trust and expect the worse. Then you aren&#039;t let down at the end of the day, ya know? 

I think the only people that really care about you and your well being and that you can totally trust are your family. 

One thing I hope to teach my children though, even though the world does suck big monkey balls, that doesn&#039;t mean you have to lost your sense of humor.  As long as you can laugh at the end of the day, you&#039;ve done something right.  

Also, I tell my kids all the time, &quot;if you don&#039;t like something, when you grown up, change it! Be the change you want to see in the world.&quot;  That&#039;s a famous quote right? Didn&#039;t one of the Cosby kids say that or something, LOL :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome question! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious how you are gonna handle it, because you are so right! I don&#8217;t believe in all that fluffy foo foo crap deep down in my heart. I put on the appearance that I do, but really- I don&#8217;t. I *DO* believe that most people could care less about you at the end of the day and if they have to step on you to make themselves look good, they will.  Most, not all, but again- most.  </p>
<p>Have you ever watched (I think it&#8217;s on 20/20) &#8220;What would you do?&#8221; Most people don&#8217;t do crap to help out if someone is in trouble and getting hurt &#8211; UNLESS someone is already stepping in to help out.  I saw this one where this guy pretended to be dead on the street, or at least sleeping, unconscious or something and the number of people that just walked by, stepped over him was unbelievable.  Just proves the point that people suck and you really are on your own once you reach adulthood.  </p>
<p>I do try to live in a world where I believe that most people are good and just when I get all comfy in that place, BAM! someone takes a dump all over me in one way or another and I&#8217;m back to square one with my faith in humanity.  It&#8217;s just easier to not trust and expect the worse. Then you aren&#8217;t let down at the end of the day, ya know? </p>
<p>I think the only people that really care about you and your well being and that you can totally trust are your family. </p>
<p>One thing I hope to teach my children though, even though the world does suck big monkey balls, that doesn&#8217;t mean you have to lost your sense of humor.  As long as you can laugh at the end of the day, you&#8217;ve done something right.  </p>
<p>Also, I tell my kids all the time, &#8220;if you don&#8217;t like something, when you grown up, change it! Be the change you want to see in the world.&#8221;  That&#8217;s a famous quote right? Didn&#8217;t one of the Cosby kids say that or something, LOL <img src='http://lesombre.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sheila (Charm School Reject)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila (Charm School Reject)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re lucky to have the opportunity to break the news to her gently, with love and compassion, than to have to try to help her pick up the pieces when she realizes it on her own.

Unfortunately, I&#039;ve already had to have these sorts of mini-conversations with LD about people who aren&#039;t always nice and say/do mean things.  Like when he didn&#039;t understand why he couldn&#039;t go on XBOX live - &quot;you&#039;re not old enough&quot; wasn&#039;t a good enough answer.  

You know your daughter best - you know what she can handle.  Good luck!
.-= Sheila (Charm School Reject)&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://charm-school-reject.com/2009/11/27/fear/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fear&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re lucky to have the opportunity to break the news to her gently, with love and compassion, than to have to try to help her pick up the pieces when she realizes it on her own.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I&#8217;ve already had to have these sorts of mini-conversations with LD about people who aren&#8217;t always nice and say/do mean things.  Like when he didn&#8217;t understand why he couldn&#8217;t go on XBOX live &#8211; &#8220;you&#8217;re not old enough&#8221; wasn&#8217;t a good enough answer.  </p>
<p>You know your daughter best &#8211; you know what she can handle.  Good luck!<br />
.-= <a href="http://charm-school-reject.com/" class="ubernym uttJustLink" onmouseover="domTT_activate(this, event, 'content', 'You\'ve been warned. Many times. Don\'t act surprised!','caption', 'Charm School Reject' );">Sheila</a> (Charm School Reject)&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://charm-school-reject.com/2009/11/27/fear/" rel="nofollow">Fear</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://lesombre.ca/2009/12/01/wings-of-a-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-5224</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to have this same talk with Taylor when she was in 5th grade. It was the right time because the girls she was going to school with were starting to become vicious. My daughter isn&#039;t. She is a free thinker and likes to do her own thing and not follow what the &quot;cool people&quot; are doing. And when you&#039;re a girl, different is bad. 

So, we talked about how not everyone is nice. I told her that she doesn&#039;t have to like everybody, and that its ok to not like them. But, I also told her that I expect her to be polite, even to assholes. Because she is a better person than them. 

Tay is now a freshman in high school, and she gets good grades and has a good head on her shoulders. Its hard to watch this crap happen, but if you prepare CutieDaughter, not only will she make it through, she will be the better person for it.
.-= Becky&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.girlscoutdropout.org/?p=158&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Attack of the 8 Legged Albino&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to have this same talk with Taylor when she was in 5th grade. It was the right time because the girls she was going to school with were starting to become vicious. My daughter isn&#8217;t. She is a free thinker and likes to do her own thing and not follow what the &#8220;cool people&#8221; are doing. And when you&#8217;re a girl, different is bad. </p>
<p>So, we talked about how not everyone is nice. I told her that she doesn&#8217;t have to like everybody, and that its ok to not like them. But, I also told her that I expect her to be polite, even to assholes. Because she is a better person than them. </p>
<p>Tay is now a freshman in high school, and she gets good grades and has a good head on her shoulders. Its hard to watch this crap happen, but if you prepare CutieDaughter, not only will she make it through, she will be the better person for it.<br />
.-= Becky&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.girlscoutdropout.org/?p=158" rel="nofollow">Attack of the 8 Legged Albino</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: hello haha narf</title>
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		<dc:creator>hello haha narf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t see any harm in telling children that there are less than nice people in the world, but they should be the best they can be, regardless of how others act.  i learned of not nice people when i was really little and went to bible study when mom when to church.  of course having a dad who was a cop left no room for doubt that there were crappy people out there.  point is, you are raising kids to be strong, productive members of society so i say not only is it ok to prepare them, but that it is your responsibility.

all of this coming from a woman with no kids, so take it for what you want!

love and best wishes to you and lw as you continue to parent!
.-= hello haha narf&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/MidnightCliff/~3/Lf1O-DdyVuY/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No Such Thing&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t see any harm in telling children that there are less than nice people in the world, but they should be the best they can be, regardless of how others act.  i learned of not nice people when i was really little and went to bible study when mom when to church.  of course having a dad who was a cop left no room for doubt that there were crappy people out there.  point is, you are raising kids to be strong, productive members of society so i say not only is it ok to prepare them, but that it is your responsibility.</p>
<p>all of this coming from a woman with no kids, so take it for what you want!</p>
<p>love and best wishes to you and lw as you continue to parent!<br />
.-= hello haha narf&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/MidnightCliff/~3/Lf1O-DdyVuY/" rel="nofollow">No Such Thing</a> =-.</p>
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